Azure's ban appeal


Magnum  Certified Gamemaster VIP 21 Jan 22 at 11:07am
#11
+1
Recordings show normal sniper gameplay, he just can hit his shots with irons.
Knight Errant  VIP 21 Jan 22 at 11:51am
#12
-1
I've watched all the clips, and to be honest this is a lousy defense. A vast majority of clips posted are him peeking into a focused sightline where he's already going to know where the enemy's head is. There's very little to any of the "flicks" we're supposed to be judging, save for a single clip: trim5. Let's look closer.

The clip begins with Azure landing a shot on an OTA Shield. He retreats behind the corner and takes out the AKM. He then begins sweeping the corner to the right with his mouse, before his aim suddenly snaps in the entirely opposite direction onto the OTA's head. This here, I can say from experience as an staff member on this server, is classic aimlock. Not only did he perfectly aim directly back onto the OTA's head, it was also in the exact opposite direction of his manual mouse movement. In a single frame, he goes from moving his mouse to the right to being onto the OTA's head. Watch the video frame-by-frame if you'd like to confirm this for yourself. Point is: if this was manual aim, you'd see the shift in momentum as he swipes his hand to the left to make up for the fact he sweeped past his opponent. He wouldn't correct his aim so perfectly in one or two *frames.*

In my opinion, I believe he has a keybind of some sort that he hits in case he fucks up (prolly mapped to a mouse button). This is might be why the rest of his clips don't seem to show any suspicious behavior, but the main point against them is the lack of actual movement we can judge. If we use these bundle of clips as the sole evidence, we would be blatantly disregarding footage captured by other people. On top of that, we only have a single clip, Trim5, in which any actual "flicking" takes place. Almost every other clip is simply him peeking out of cover with his mouse already on the guy he's about to shoot. AKA: there's not enough evidence to prove if it is or isn't aimbot in those cases.
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Alma Armas  VIP 21 Jan 22 at 12:39pm
#13
(21 Jan 22 at 10:19am)Your Berdest Fren Wrote: +1
This guy isn't cheating lmao, the thread evidence i've seen so far that was potentially used against him really wasn't good & the clips he provided of his own actual gameplay seemed pretty normal to me
I've fought this man in the past consistently myself whenever I was on and he has been improving, this isn't blatant aimbot either

The evidence he is using is to defend himself, it's not staff gathered evidence or evidence being used against him. Those are not public.
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wealthy  Member 21 Jan 22 at 12:52pm Edited
#14
(21 Jan 22 at 11:51am)Knight Errant Wrote: -1
I've watched all the clips, and to be honest this is a lousy defense. A vast majority of clips posted are him peeking into a focused sightline where he's already going to know where the enemy's head is. There's very little to any of the "flicks" we're supposed to be judging, save for a single clip: trim5. Let's look closer.

The clip begins with Azure landing a shot on an OTA Shield. He retreats behind the corner and takes out the AKM. He then begins sweeping the corner to the right with his mouse, before his aim suddenly snaps in the entirely opposite direction onto the OTA's head. This here, I can say from experience as an staff member on this server, is classic aimlock. Not only did he perfectly aim directly back onto the OTA's head, it was also in the exact opposite direction of his manual mouse movement. In a single frame, he goes from moving his mouse to the right to being onto the OTA's head. Watch the video frame-by-frame if you'd like to confirm this for yourself. Point is: if this was manual aim, you'd see the shift in momentum as he swipes his hand to the left to make up for the fact he sweeped past his opponent. He wouldn't correct his aim so perfectly in one or two *frames.*

In my opinion, I believe he has a keybind of some sort that he hits in case he fucks up (prolly mapped to a mouse button). This is might be why the rest of his clips don't seem to show any suspicious behavior, but the main point against them is the lack of actual movement we can judge. If we use these bundle of clips as the sole evidence, we would be blatantly disregarding footage captured by other people. On top of that, we only have a single clip, Trim5, in which any actual "flicking" takes place. Almost every other clip is simply him peeking out of cover with his mouse already on the guy he's about to shoot. AKA: there's not enough evidence to prove if it is or isn't aimbot in those cases.

I feel as if you are overthinking the situation, if I aimbotted I would be as you say frame to frame tracking him on his head, which I have not, I started prefiring and simply adjusted my aim to him which wasnt even exactly on his head then continued spraying and even went a little too left, other clips show me simply how I react, and how I track or how my reflexes work in certain aiming situations. If needed I can also provide a CS clip where my aim is much more flicky or "jittery" simply because I am used to playing with only my wrist on a high dpi with mouse accel.

(21 Jan 22 at 12:39pm)Alma Armas Wrote:
(21 Jan 22 at 10:19am)Your Berdest Fren Wrote: +1
This guy isn't cheating lmao, the thread evidence i've seen so far that was potentially used against him really wasn't good & the clips he provided of his own actual gameplay seemed pretty normal to me
I've fought this man in the past consistently myself whenever I was on and he has been improving, this isn't blatant aimbot either

The evidence he is using is to defend himself, it's not staff gathered evidence or evidence being used against him. Those are not public.

That is correct, evidence I've brought was to show how its on my screen, I was fortunate enough to be able to see the clips which were put out and it was me watching a corner, flicking on a guy I've seen but he went out of fov again and checking the corner again then going away since I've decided there is nobody to shoot at in that spot, and to put it in perspective its also the only suspicious clip of me out me being spectated for a period of time and the spectator itself being buggy does not help the case sir.
Cheesey  VIP 21 Jan 22 at 3:29pm
#15
Neutral
Either this guy's mouse sensitivity is way too high and he's trying to figure out how to compensate, or he has some bad aimbot on with the smoothness cranked up to 100. Some cheat clients offer a "smoothing" or "human" slider or option that you can adjust that makes the aimbot glide to a target more instead of flicking directly to it (don't ask me how I know). From what I can see he can't really hit much with scopes and panic flicks or whatever you want to call it to get back to the person's head. Whether it's the fact that scopes have a different sensitivity or if he is running some shoddy client and itt can't handle the fact that the scope is a different FOV. The only clip I can really mark as suspicious is the second clip against the EOWA, where he supposedly looks and knows where he is around the tank. But who knows maybe he has Razer surround sound 3.1. Either way there's not enough evidence to discern if he's cheating so it's gonna come down to another review by staff,
Zan Xi  VIP 21 Jan 22 at 3:43pm Edited
#16
-1, ngl those clips remind me of that shitty keybound aimlock many cheats use, its pretty similar to that one workshop script cheat.

edit
You can clearly see the difference between the iron sight and scope clips, also, in my opinion theres no other reason to use iron sight other than to make the gun compatible with cheats and thats exactly what hes doing.
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Shower  VIP 21 Jan 22 at 4:19pm
#17
+1 obviously not cheating
Shin  Member 21 Jan 22 at 5:55pm
#18
-1 Blatant aimbot

The only clips that have blatant aimbot in them are these 2:
-https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mIn0CZZBUmE
-https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S708YhmrleU

You are making alot of unnecessary flicks, which to me looks like your natural aim is pretty bad, however the very last flick before
you shoot looks like a straight aimlock.

It seems that you are either using a keybind based aimbot, and you are activating it when your crosshair is somewhat near the target or you are
using an FOV based aimbot, which automaticly locks on the target, when it is in a specific FOV range (distance from crosshair to target).

I have made a short comparison between your "style" of aiming vs a normal experienced style, since the way you aim is something i've never seen before (even compared to the
best of the best aimers).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9nsu-F1efI8
Bel1ve.  VIP 21 Jan 22 at 6:06pm Edited
#19
(21 Jan 22 at 5:55pm)Shin Wrote: -1 Blatant aimbot

The only clips that have blatant aimbot in them are these 2:
-https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mIn0CZZBUmE
-https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S708YhmrleU

You are making alot of unnecessary flicks, which to me looks like your natural aim is pretty bad, however the very last flick before
you shoot looks like a straight aimlock.

It seems that you are either using a keybind based aimbot, and you are activating it when your crosshair is somewhat near the target or you are
using an FOV based aimbot, which automaticly locks on the target, when it is in a specific FOV range (distance from crosshair to target).

I have made a short comparison between your "style" of aiming vs a normal experienced style, since the way you aim is something i've never seen before (even compared to the
best of the best aimers).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9nsu-F1efI8

I beg to differ, every sniper is different in their own ways. What you may consider "Good/better" way to aim is not necessarily in the heat of battle the way it goes for example the overcompensation he shows. Although to each their own way of perceiving things.
(FYI I tend to aim like that as well from time to time)
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