Bootstrap Bill Ban appeal


Bootstrap bill  Member 2 Apr 24 at 9:04pm
#1
FULL RP Name(s): WP-P SPC-J Bootstrap Bill

Discord Username: Bootstrap_Billy

Steam ID: STEAM_0:0:47115384

Who warned/banned you? STEAM_0:0:426307842

Date of Warn/Ban: 4/2/24

Ban Length: 6 weeks

Warn/Ban Reason: Mrdm

Why should we remove warn/ban? I was given no warnings and promptly banned for 6 weeks, its also confusing to me because i wasnt even sure who or what was a civilian i was only killing them because i thought they were combines disguised as civillians ive killed those before so i did so without knowing, its my fault im sure we can work something out less then 6 weeks.

Evidence/Other: There was one dude who was disguised as a civilian sitting in the windows of B who i was killing i thought they were all like him cause id get kills logged on my gun.
[DN] Johnson  Member 3 Apr 24 at 8:12am
#2
to be honest, i think you deserve a ban for going around Killing Civilians, but 6 weeks is definitely oversized, this rather looks to me like the fact that your Trainer never gave you the needed info, so he should get some punishment too.
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[VN] Ragnarok  Member 3 Apr 24 at 8:46am
#3
It's good to point out for those responsible for the appeal, that this incident happened on the same day that Blackwater PMC were conducting business, which can be confusing for new players given how anarchists look exactly like civilians. Perhaps that's what he meant with "enemy disguised as civilian" since the combine can't disguise at all. 6 weeks is insane given the circumstances.
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Viscus  Member 3 Apr 24 at 12:19pm
#4
We want to keep players, not remove them. Bill acknowledged what he did was wrong. Most people can't even do that.

I had no idea about blackwater until they came on a day or so ago. Combine disguised as civillians doesnt make any sense to me.. but if I saw civis shooting and I got logged kills, it makes some sense.

I've been killed multiple times as a civilian by NCO combine. The reason was "Don't look like a rebel. Don't be in a war zone." Would they have gotten 6 weeks if I said something?

This wasn't intentional rule breaking. This was not by any definition "Mass Random Deathmatch". Bill had his reasons and thought he was making the correct choice. It wasn't random, blatant killing.


He admitted he was wrong. Let's have Bill as a regular player and get him back in the server ASAP.
bee21  Senior Server Administrator VIP 3 Apr 24 at 3:18pm
#5
(3 Apr 24 at 8:12am)[DN] Johnson Wrote: to be honest, i think you deserve a ban for going around Killing Civilians, but 6 weeks is definitely oversized, this rather looks to me like the fact that your Trainer never gave you the needed info, so he should get some punishment too.

I agree that 6 weeks is too much, but i also don't think that the trainer is at fault for not telling bill. Most anarchist factions come on relatively infrequently, and even if they do come on you might not even be guaranteed to interact with them, so It would make sense if the trainer just didn't know the specific details. If anyone, the CO's should notify their faction about the presence of an anarchist faction.
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ϟDEFNϟSakra  VIP 3 Apr 24 at 3:20pm
#6
+1 "We want to keep players, not remove them. Bill acknowledged what he did was wrong. Most people can't even do that." So TRUE !!!
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JOLLY_RED158  VIP 3 Apr 24 at 5:37pm
#7
FREE MY BOY BILL (reduce ban)

Anarchists/CWU/Civilians can be very confusing for new players, especially if they weren't informed or are just trying to understand
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Katakuri  Head Administrator Certified Gamemaster VIP 5 Apr 24 at 8:02pm
#8
ACCEPTED

Ban reduced by five weeks
The ban has been reduced by 5 weeks, considering you are a new player. Do not make this mistake again and if you are confused about anything, check out the field manual or ask staff or other players in game.

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