+1 idc what ya'll say but the model sucks absolute cajones if you cant aim and its a god damn SHOTGUN. I have had so many encounters where my shots either go through them somehow (it's a shotgun it should have some damn spread) Or I get out DPS'd because my shotgun is too slow to rechamber. It usually takes 2-4 shots to take down someone depending on how much armor or health they bring. Give me the god damn spas 12
Edit: I just realized he's trying to nerf us for some god forsaken reason. -1 for the nerf even if you get rid of our shotgun or nerf it we still have the RAM-7. If u die a lot to them maybe get more hp or more armor or get a class with a shield. Don't try and nerf us cause you respectfully have a skill issue. Our boy Sentinel did not add our inventory weapons and armors for show.
don't brush off their opinion because they actually play the class you suggested to nerf, besides, in the past the SPAS always went to RUs. if you want the shotgun to be nerfed, just ask for that directly instead of dancing around it
(30 Jul 24 at 9:29pm)Terra999 Wrote: ...Have any of the -1's ever been within 50 ft of a HECU on the combine side?
cuz the "its a cqc" is not true, this thing can kill me at rifle range.
I have, actually, on my Sword character. Having played both CQC classes, neither is strictly better than the other. The 680 does not have rifle range, that claim is absurd. Funnily enough, I have heard the "Jak-12 has AR range" complaint as well and that's not true either. If you're dying constantly to shotguns, then you're probably way closer to the user than you think.
Terra, you're acting like HECU is the only class that gets the M680, if the problem is the shotgun (Which other classes, such as FOXTROT, GRID, LVET Medic also use), you'd recommend for the shotgun to get nerfed, not for HECU singularly to receive a whole new gun, so HECU can be nerfed individually. Your issue is with HECU (as you've shown with snarky remarks in OOC), and you're digging for something to complain about them.
I find it specially amusing that you try and use "orginial game authenticity" as an argument, by saying that HL1 Grunts use the Spas-12, when you are a CmD in a division that uses either MP7s or AR2s in the original HL2 games, yet runs around with an LMG that acts like an M4 (comparison made by the previous SHIELD CmD) on top of a riot shield + grenades. By these metrics we'd have to replace SWORD's Jak-12 for the Spas-12 as well, remove UNION's M4 and RF's AK47 for MP7s as well, and so on.
(31 Jul 24 at 8:05pm)M4 Sherman Wrote: …Funnily enough, I have heard the "Jak-12 has AR range" complaint as well and that's not true either...
Oh god if people are saying the jak-12 has AR range today wait until they hear about the range before the nerf XD
In all seriousness though, the posts of HECU, in my opinion, just screams skill issue. I’ve played on both sides (UNION and RF) and went against both cqc classes (HECU and SWORDS) in all ranges (even point blank) and I’m telling you. If you just know how to land your shots, how to strafe, and have like decent fps knowledge, you would definitely destroy them.
-1
A nerf for the HECU shotgun is absolutely unnecessary, if you're dying to a shotgun often best thing to do is stay as far away as possible. There have been several times where I am fairly close to someone with the shotgun and they take 3-4 shots before going down.
Edit: I just realized he's trying to nerf us for some god forsaken reason. -1 for the nerf even if you get rid of our shotgun or nerf it we still have the RAM-7. If u die a lot to them maybe get more hp or more armor or get a class with a shield. Don't try and nerf us cause you respectfully have a skill issue. Our boy Sentinel did not add our inventory weapons and armors for show.
cuz the "its a cqc" is not true, this thing can kill me at rifle range.
I have, actually, on my Sword character. Having played both CQC classes, neither is strictly better than the other. The 680 does not have rifle range, that claim is absurd. Funnily enough, I have heard the "Jak-12 has AR range" complaint as well and that's not true either. If you're dying constantly to shotguns, then you're probably way closer to the user than you think.
I find it specially amusing that you try and use "orginial game authenticity" as an argument, by saying that HL1 Grunts use the Spas-12, when you are a CmD in a division that uses either MP7s or AR2s in the original HL2 games, yet runs around with an LMG that acts like an M4 (comparison made by the previous SHIELD CmD) on top of a riot shield + grenades. By these metrics we'd have to replace SWORD's Jak-12 for the Spas-12 as well, remove UNION's M4 and RF's AK47 for MP7s as well, and so on.
Oh god if people are saying the jak-12 has AR range today wait until they hear about the range before the nerf XD
In all seriousness though, the posts of HECU, in my opinion, just screams skill issue. I’ve played on both sides (UNION and RF) and went against both cqc classes (HECU and SWORDS) in all ranges (even point blank) and I’m telling you. If you just know how to land your shots, how to strafe, and have like decent fps knowledge, you would definitely destroy them.
Forever RF
A nerf for the HECU shotgun is absolutely unnecessary, if you're dying to a shotgun often best thing to do is stay as far away as possible. There have been several times where I am fairly close to someone with the shotgun and they take 3-4 shots before going down.