Pathfinder's ban appeal


MinimalOverwatch  Affairs Counselor VIP 8 Jul 19 at 2:42pm Edited
#1
FULL RP Name(s): RU ZODIAC MSGT I Pathfinder

Discord Username: Polybius#8558

Steam ID:  [b]STEAM_0:1:121959743[/b]

Who banned you?: Zmurfus (Operator)

Date of Ban: 08/07/2019

Ban Length: 2 days

Ban Reason: RDM x2

Why should you be unbanned: It should be x1 as the first one was several months ago. I suppose it should be lowered at least.

 The reason for the ban was that I shot a civ with a gun. I saw a civ with a gun and was ready to shoot him, however, was blocked by SoD with cloak who was kicking AFK people. After I passed him, the door closed, I reached that immediately, unlocked it, saw that civ on the pos I saw him with a gun before and shot him. Killed civ contacted staff and provided video of that, however, it is absurd as I clearly saw him staying on the place he was staying before. I don't understand how it is metagame if you lose vision of a target for a second and after that second see person staying on the same place. Another argument of Staff was that there were 3 other civs, however, I totally remember where they stayed, and as I know they didn't change their positions. So, in fact, I count that warn as an unjust one and require to unban me.

Evidence/Other: No. You can count that appeal as idiotic, however, I will seek for justice.
[DEFN] Zmurfus  VIP 8 Jul 19 at 2:52pm Edited
#2
The reason you were banned for RDM was that the evidence provided to me showed that yes the CWU had a gun out but then you lost clear sight of him due to a door closing and the CWU moving. Once you reopened the door you decided to shoot the now unarmed civilian when there were 3 other CWUs standing next to him with one of these CWUs had the exact same model and the only way you could of known it was the same guy was by metagaming I asked you would you prefer to be warned for RDM or Metagaming which your response was that "if you are going to warn me just do it already" at which point due to it being your 5th warn on the server got you automatically banned but the warn system I then extended it to the correct amount of time in line with our punishment guidelines which was a 2 day ban for RDM Count 2.

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MinimalOverwatch  Affairs Counselor VIP 8 Jul 19 at 2:55pm Edited
#3
How could I metagame that? As I said he was staying in the same position, that's the reason I shot  HIM. I was correct as I remember where he was staying. The second of the closed door isn't the reason for metagame. AND! I wonder, when was first RDM warn? BTW. I thought you'd be a nice person and do lesser ban time, but no. You want to ban me for 2 days because CWUs are salty. Coolio, after weeks of waiting to join back getting beaned because
 of the door.
[DEFN] Zmurfus  VIP 8 Jul 19 at 2:57pm
#4
There were 3 CWUs 1 of which had the exact same model as the other one the only way you knew which one to shoot would be to look at their names for all you could know the civilian with a gun you saw could of run off leaving you to murder an innocent civilian. I would also like to remind you that warns no matter the date they were created do not expire.

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MinimalOverwatch  Affairs Counselor VIP 8 Jul 19 at 3:00pm
#5
Uhhh, I wasn't even watching their names, I REMEMBERED where they were staying and SHOT the person which was the closest who had a gun like a moment ago. If you count closed door as a Solid reason for metagame which is absurd I am not fine with that.
[DEFN] Zmurfus  VIP 8 Jul 19 at 3:03pm
#6
You lost full vision of the CWU, you had no in game reason to the shoot an unarmed Civilian and no in game knowledge that it was the Civilian you indeed saw with a gun, Therefore the ban for RDM is justified.

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MinimalOverwatch  Affairs Counselor VIP 8 Jul 19 at 3:04pm Edited
#7
Like it's not logical. He was staying exact same position I shot him cause I am not brainless. Why should I be punished cause I can remember? If I shot innocent it could be the reason, but what's wrong with a correct kill and ability to memorize? He also was talking all the time, so yes I could hear voices too. He was staying right there and talking after I unlocked the door.

It isn't cause I had a clear vision of where he was standing, a clear understanding of his voice. I had a solid reason to shoot him.
[DEFN] Zmurfus  VIP 8 Jul 19 at 3:08pm
#8
If you had kept a clear line of sight and there were no other civilians around I would agree with you but in this case it was RDM.

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bog bog bog man  VIP 8 Jul 19 at 3:09pm
#9
I have a video evidence of the civ pulling out the gun, with the door still open
MinimalOverwatch  Affairs Counselor VIP 8 Jul 19 at 3:10pm
#10
It isn't because I shot a person who was wielding the gun. If you want to give warn you ONLY can try to do metagame as I followed ROE. Using of the deduction isn't forbidden.
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