FULL RP Name(s):
A: 
  OTA SHIELD Honorary Graycat
  OVA KILO VTO 04 9875
  MP SGT Blackcat

Discord Username:
A: Lord Graycat#8485

Steam ID:
A: STEAM_0:1:76927100

Workshop Link: (If applicable)
A: N/A

What is your suggestion?
A: Re-add RDU to hold as a counterpart to RECON in the sense of "High speed assault unit"
This could reasonably function in one of two ways. 
  1. A full return with the jetpack, though this would be not as viable due to the current "Airborne = unable to shoot"
  2. A total counterpart with high HU speed and perhaps a gun that functions in similar aspect with the M3

How would this benefit the server?
A: Adds a "new" class for players to mess with, alongside adding an opposite for RECON for combine.

-1, gaycat and also tbh if we're giving someone a jetpack then the rebels should have something with a jetpack too which is my actual -1 reason.

(12 Oct 21 at 7:23pm)Robotic Wizard Wrote: -1, gaycat and also tbh if we're giving someone a jetpack then the rebels should have something with a jetpack too which is my actual -1 reason.

This is why I gave the second option, plus it's not like we already have asymmetry with class counterparts. Just look at MACE and SU and their kits. Cloak and Cswep vs. Disguise kit.

Didn't you use to be an RDU CO Graycat?

Also, we have JURY, which has the HU increase that RECON has, which appears to be what your post is about.

(12 Oct 21 at 7:52pm)The War Machine Wrote: Didn't you use to be an RDU CO Graycat?

Also, we have JURY, which has the HU increase that RECON has, which appears to be what your post is about.

Problem is, MP also has the same speed boost. From what I've seen thus far, there is no true counter to RECON other than what others have said in CROSS, which to me was always the LVET MARKSMAN counterpart so having it to be two classes in one never made much sense to me.

I got into SCAV today, and I'll say, it ain't that bad. It's "sorta" balanced.

Sure, you can break the class easily with perks but then again you can do that with most classes anyway. I don't think SCAV need any counter however I do not hate the idea of having something similar to SCAV but afaik, sentinel doesn't want mirror classes nor do I think we'll get another subdiv/div. But another OTA div? Pog. Could always be fun.

Neutral but leaning to +1 for the 2nd option.

-1
RDU was disbanded because they failed to adapt to new maps, lesser members, and nerfs specifically towards mobility.
There would be a problem with the skybox of each of the maps we use. The jetpack would be limited on the field. I don't see it being used as many times as climb SWEP.
As much I would like to see it happen there are some problems that come with it. If this passes it's gonna be a miracle for nerfing.

OVA RDU

Jetpacks yes please

RDU was pretty cool. Jetpacks, are pretty cool. There'd be a couple problems with it now but in general arguments about faction symmetry are invalid except where the two factions are totally missing a component of gameplay that isn't compensated for in some way.

For example, cases have been made for JURY to equal LVet Med or MP on different occasions. JURY technically fits both bills, but its loadout is essentially an average between the two classes.

The Combine don't have any equivalence to Recon, giving the Rebels an fully distinct class option that's separate from anything the Combine has. Having something cool as an alternative to that would be great, but simultaneously any Jetpacks would face some problems (as mentioned by Woorj07) with the skybox being low and the inability to shoot while midair (Which, tbf, a jetpack would still be really cool).

(12 Oct 21 at 9:32pm)[DEFN] Aithead Wrote: RDU was pretty cool. Jetpacks, are pretty cool. There'd be a couple problems with it now but in general arguments about faction symmetry are invalid except where the two factions are totally missing a component of gameplay that isn't compensated for in some way.

For example, cases have been made for JURY to equal LVet Med or MP on different occasions. JURY technically fits both bills, but its loadout is essentially an average between the two classes.

The Combine don't have any equivalence to Recon, giving the Rebels an fully distinct class option that's separate from anything the Combine has. Having something cool as an alternative to that would be great, but simultaneously any Jetpacks would face some problems (as mentioned by Woorj07) with the skybox being low and the inability to shoot while midair (Which, tbf, a jetpack would still be really cool).

This is why I gave the second option of the closer to RECON style gameplay. It'd be a little less unique, but still great to have.