Title has the main point. I'm going to definitely have a bit of a personality shift from "HAHAHA LOL KILL ZYER MRDM APPEAL I DID NOTHING WRONG LOLLL" because this is a topic that concerns me greatly. I can't quite figure out whether or not to panic or to be excited.
I'll say it here: I am an Evangelical Christian, so AI definitely has me asking a lot more questions than most other people do (Blake Lemoine situation is VERY interesting, and I would love to have a chat with him). I am studying Cybersecurity and plan on majoring in it soon, so I come into contact with this topic almost everywhere I go. Whenever I have a thought that bothers me, it tends to not go away, hence why I am coming to the forums to start a conversation. Discord could've been used but the forums are more focused and leave a catalogue of the conversation better.
What do you guys think? Is AI dangerous? Sentient? How so? To me it feels more disruptive in jobs more than anything, but I wanna see what you guys think because I just can't piece together good, productive thoughts on it.
Lastly, in the Christian circles (This is a very good article from Biologos, also again remember Blake Lemoine who is a Christian) it's generally veering towards accepting AI as human intelligence, and that it's got both the rights bestowed by God to humanity and suffers from the same curse as the rest of Creation. I know many of you aren't Christian, but just bear with me for a moment and give me your perspective.
The most recent piece of technology I own is a printer, and I keep a gun next to it in case it makes a noise I don't recognize. Once computers learn to fix themselves, I am out of a job and then it's only a skip and a hop to Terminator's Skynet.
In all honestly, the majority of us will never see it outside of a reduction in available jobs and shock tabloid articles, and it will likely be reserved as a toy for the world's wealthy elites so they can do even less than they already do, or some military bureaucrat will start stuffing it in drones and something will go wrong. It's not gonna go to anything worthwhile, or it will never go anywhere worthwhile and get bogged down to another tech gimmick to be purchased.
Its no different than car assembly robots replacing assembly line workers. The only people who legitimately raise it as a threat to society are the people who are going to lose jobs to it.
But that's how the world works: if something else can do a better job than you, you're getting replaced.
As for the sentience and religious side of things, its a crockpot full of shit; no offense.
We're nowhere near a Terminator/Matrix type situation. That could happen MAYBE in like 200 years but I doubt it.
Otherwise AI is more like what Sentinel said. Where it's gonna replace a bunch of jobs because companies are assholes. Recent court rulings (one involving a monkey) has made it to where art can't be copyrighted if it wasn't made by a human so that's good. Plus Getty Images is fighting a few AI companies because they used their images to train the AIs.
Hopefully this trend will die out like the NFT and Metaverse stuff but it's most likely gonna stick around in small capacity with various large companies doing shit with it.
Pretty good job security for me though since I work at a data center lol
TLDR: AI is pretty much never gonna be sentient but it can take your job. Detonate an EMP at your local server farm for the funny.
(28 Jan 23 at 12:40pm)Game Boy Wrote: We're nowhere near a Terminator/Matrix type situation. That could happen MAYBE in like 200 years but I doubt it.
Otherwise AI is more like what Sentinel said. Where it's gonna replace a bunch of jobs because companies are assholes. Recent court rulings (one involving a monkey) has made it to where art can't be copyrighted if it wasn't made by a human so that's good. Plus Getty Images is fighting a few AI companies because they used their images to train the AIs.
Hopefully this trend will die out like the NFT and Metaverse stuff but it's most likely gonna stick around in small capacity with various large companies doing shit with it.
Pretty good job security for me though since I work at a data center lol
TLDR: AI is pretty much never gonna be sentient but it can take your job. Detonate an EMP at your local server farm for the funny.
I thought the same thing, especially with a Terminator scenario. AI derive their intelligence from human intelligence, but true combat and war is something that isn't able to be coded in. They'd be capable of some basic operations but you put up a well armed and trained soldier against a robot, the soldier will win. Still worried, but I put my faith in other things than man.
As for the philosophical side of this (questions of morality, AI sentience, and the implications of brain scans and human brain emulation) I recommend you check out this little game called Soma. That game will force you to think about questions like this you aren't even considering. As well as give you a nice waterboarding of existential dread.
As for the future of humanity, in sort I think it will be the death of capitalism and humans will be well off.
Machines for the last couple of centuries now have gradually eased or replaced human laborer. Typically, this would leave many jobs to do or even create new ones. At the end of the day, there would always be jobs that human workers just do better and new a field of specialist/technicians would be created to create, repair, and operate the newfangled machines. Humans have always adapted and found better uses for their newfound time. The quality of life for everyone improved.
This trend will continue so long as humans have an edge over machines---something that we can do better than they can. Our most notable "edges" right now is our intelligence, understanding, creativity, and adaptability. However, developments in AI are begging to threaten this. (Now this is centuries off) Humans may become "obsolete", and machines may out class us in every field, even in improving current AI. Humans will no longer have to work, nor will we have any jobs.
Now, this isn't necessarily a bad thing. In fact, I predict that quality of life will skyrocket. We may not be able to work or earn money, but this is only problem in a capitalist system. In a socialist like system, where the wealth produced by the machines is shared with everyone, things should be fine, great even as long as its run well.
We just have to adapt, just like we always have, be careful, and see it coming.
(28 Jan 23 at 3:24pm)Minishogun721 Wrote: I thought the same thing, especially with a Terminator scenario. AI derive their intelligence from human intelligence, but true combat and war is something that isn't able to be coded in. They'd be capable of some basic operations but you put up a well armed and trained soldier against a robot, the soldier will win. Still worried, but I put my faith in other things than man.
Funnily enough we have a very recent example of soldiers outsmarting AI and its funny as fuck how easily they can
I'll say it here: I am an Evangelical Christian, so AI definitely has me asking a lot more questions than most other people do (Blake Lemoine situation is VERY interesting, and I would love to have a chat with him). I am studying Cybersecurity and plan on majoring in it soon, so I come into contact with this topic almost everywhere I go. Whenever I have a thought that bothers me, it tends to not go away, hence why I am coming to the forums to start a conversation. Discord could've been used but the forums are more focused and leave a catalogue of the conversation better.
What do you guys think? Is AI dangerous? Sentient? How so? To me it feels more disruptive in jobs more than anything, but I wanna see what you guys think because I just can't piece together good, productive thoughts on it.
Lastly, in the Christian circles (This is a very good article from Biologos, also again remember Blake Lemoine who is a Christian) it's generally veering towards accepting AI as human intelligence, and that it's got both the rights bestowed by God to humanity and suffers from the same curse as the rest of Creation. I know many of you aren't Christian, but just bear with me for a moment and give me your perspective.
In all honestly, the majority of us will never see it outside of a reduction in available jobs and shock tabloid articles, and it will likely be reserved as a toy for the world's wealthy elites so they can do even less than they already do, or some military bureaucrat will start stuffing it in drones and something will go wrong. It's not gonna go to anything worthwhile, or it will never go anywhere worthwhile and get bogged down to another tech gimmick to be purchased.
But that's how the world works: if something else can do a better job than you, you're getting replaced.
As for the sentience and religious side of things, its a crockpot full of shit; no offense.
Otherwise AI is more like what Sentinel said. Where it's gonna replace a bunch of jobs because companies are assholes. Recent court rulings (one involving a monkey) has made it to where art can't be copyrighted if it wasn't made by a human so that's good. Plus Getty Images is fighting a few AI companies because they used their images to train the AIs.
Hopefully this trend will die out like the NFT and Metaverse stuff but it's most likely gonna stick around in small capacity with various large companies doing shit with it.
Pretty good job security for me though since I work at a data center lol
TLDR: AI is pretty much never gonna be sentient but it can take your job. Detonate an EMP at your local server farm for the funny.
I thought the same thing, especially with a Terminator scenario. AI derive their intelligence from human intelligence, but true combat and war is something that isn't able to be coded in. They'd be capable of some basic operations but you put up a well armed and trained soldier against a robot, the soldier will win. Still worried, but I put my faith in other things than man.
As for the future of humanity, in sort I think it will be the death of capitalism and humans will be well off.
Machines for the last couple of centuries now have gradually eased or replaced human laborer. Typically, this would leave many jobs to do or even create new ones. At the end of the day, there would always be jobs that human workers just do better and new a field of specialist/technicians would be created to create, repair, and operate the newfangled machines. Humans have always adapted and found better uses for their newfound time. The quality of life for everyone improved.
This trend will continue so long as humans have an edge over machines---something that we can do better than they can. Our most notable "edges" right now is our intelligence, understanding, creativity, and adaptability. However, developments in AI are begging to threaten this. (Now this is centuries off) Humans may become "obsolete", and machines may out class us in every field, even in improving current AI. Humans will no longer have to work, nor will we have any jobs.
Now, this isn't necessarily a bad thing. In fact, I predict that quality of life will skyrocket. We may not be able to work or earn money, but this is only problem in a capitalist system. In a socialist like system, where the wealth produced by the machines is shared with everyone, things should be fine, great even as long as its run well.
We just have to adapt, just like we always have, be careful, and see it coming.
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Funnily enough we have a very recent example of soldiers outsmarting AI and its funny as fuck how easily they can
https://www.pcgamer.com/marines-use-meta...-ai-robot/
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