Climb swep is useless


Ramtrum  VIP 4 Jan 24 at 12:32pm Edited
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What is your suggestion?
-Remove most of the invisible walls that blocks roof/high places
-Disable squad spawning on classes that has climbswep, like SU and MACE is right now
-Make a rule that only climbswep people can go on roof/high places and maybe put warning text

How would this benefit the server?
So climbswep players finally use their one of main features on class, they can still get countered by flying vehicles
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felix  Certified Gamemaster 4 Jan 24 at 12:44pm
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+1 invisible walls are kinda placed everywhere nd are very annoying
- however my only ick is the squad spawning & the roof thing. Just removing invisible walls for climbswep users is enough no reason to nerf them too much like that.
Ramtrum  VIP 4 Jan 24 at 12:54pm Edited
#3
Disable squad spawn so non-climbswep classes cant get on even if they want
Penumbra  Head Administrator Certified Gamemaster 4 Jan 24 at 1:19pm
#5
+1
This can be a nice thing to give more people more things to do, even if theres ic/ooc rules around what you do, for CROSS, being able to get a high vantage point and call out the enemy team’s location is so extremely important, i mean, they are a scout sniper are they not?
Something like this would definitely require the cooperation of staff and factional COs/Leadership (specifically COs of sub-divs WITH climbswep) but i feel something like this could help the current players mentality on the server,

Wow thats a lotta words,
Tldr, this, with proper communication/rulings, could definitely help people want to actually play, or even be attracted to the climbswep classes.

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Cerritulus  VIP 4 Jan 24 at 1:31pm Edited
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+1 In my opinion verticality of maps shouldn't have been removed as much as it had as it never really ruined the feel of the game, just made people have to be more aware of their surroundings. Anyways, snipers have insane amount of glint these days... It's like walking in the dark hallway and you go "Oh it's too dark" and look to the guy with the sniper "Can you give us a light?" "OH SURE!" *AIMS IN* "Ah much better"
Climbswep hasn't felt all that rewarding since my return to the server because of the limited usage.

But I neglected the other points.
I do not think restrictions should be made of who can be there.
JOLLY_RED158  VIP 4 Jan 24 at 1:37pm Edited
#7
+1

This is a change that I feel needs to happen. I've heard from so many people that "climb swep is useless" which is crazy because they're completely right, you can't get anywhere useful. When I was cross before I know it took a lot of convincing to get more rooftops opened but obviously CSWEP players wouldn't want every single rooftop opened (just as before) simply because some are crazy powerful and would bring in balance issues. CSWEP currently feels like its just there and not a powerful tool in the right hands. currently it's mainly just used to climb like a fence for a bit faster rotation or the odd small building roof but that's basically it. Pripyat balcony's near C we're an amazing spot for CROSS and other CSWEP classes doing some long range kills/recon. BUT you could easily get flanked or out sniped, it was a good mix. I think I personally got it blocked off by playing there as CROSS. I also find it kind of dumb that classes that are getting killed from these positions may complain and say its to powerful yet they're the ones deciding to go there and repeatedly dying as if something may change. I do agree with felix that it may be a bit of a crazy nerf to remove squad spawning on all CSWEP classes as ,for example, CROSS is not always in these spots and you quite common on the ground with others. I feel that the rule for not allowing anyone else on the roof would be quite difficult to not only follow but to enforce as some rooftops are accessible without CSWEP and may lead to confusion.
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Minishogun721  VIP 4 Jan 24 at 1:44pm
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-1 would be way too powerful, CROSS is already strong enough without cswep
JOLLY_RED158  VIP 4 Jan 24 at 2:05pm
#9
The problem with this is that you're only looking at CROSS when there are other classes that also use it but literally don't for the same reasons. Also why give them the tool and then heavily restrict it.
catwidgat  Member 4 Jan 24 at 2:23pm
#10
-removing invisible walls would be fantastic because of the amount of space it would free up, in the past I've shot at a sniper and died because i didn't realize that he was using an invisible wall as cover +1
-disabling climb-swep class spawning would also be huge as there's been trouble with entire squads of people reaching areas that require building, air vehicles or climbing to get up too making them a huge problem to deal with +1
- not allowing roof access is a -1 because climb swep classes would lose their assassination uniqueness allowing them to assassinate targets like an assassin rather than a mace uncloaking next to a CO and gunning them down most likely dying in the process. whereas if an engineer/grid builds up to a high place on the field their FOB is required to have a way to access it
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