FULL RP Name(s): A: Heavy WO Dougan't / RECON PFC Dougan't / MPF UNION 08 5477
Discord Username: A: Nuk#5513
Steam ID: A: STEAM_0:0:418023857
Workshop Link: A: Not applicable
What is your suggestion? A: Buff Rocket Launcher's damage towards vehicles / Lower vehicles' health to pre-2.1.17.0 update
How would this benefit the server? A: Since 2.1.17.0 update, vehicles got a 60% increase on health, which made them 1.6 times as tanky as they used to be. It wasn't much of a deal for air vehicles back then, since their guns were fairly weak, however, now that the air vehicles got their guns buffed (it feels as if the rockets they launch now do up to 400 dmg on splash, and the machine guns now shred through your health like butter), the rocket launcher just feels way too weak and slow and somewhat inconsistent, since locking onto the air vehicle takes 5 seconds, the rockets can be shot down, and even the hornet, being the weakest air vehicle on combine side, requires at least 7 rocket hits to be destroyed.
I see what u are pointing at but im tech right now i and deploy couple of mi2s today and got totally fked because unlike combine things i cant shoot down rockets(i think) so buffed it even more will suck ass also all tech vehicles will be fked by this
And like u are saying they can shoot it fown will buffing the damage wont really help that much because they will shoot it down anyway
Kilo vehicle will be fked the hunter already cant face a good hvy that mean it will be 2x fked strider as well in maps like outlands were u cant shoot back the hvy because funny trees and hill
Thats -1 one for me thinking not just about ova but all vehicle classes
This buff for one class is nerf for all vehicles at the same time but not a nerf for good foxtrots because u cant hit them anyway (fk u redhart)
(21 Jul 21 at 5:45pm)ozz12231 Wrote: I see what u are pointing at but im tech right now i and deploy couple of mi2s today and got totally fked because unlike combine things i cant shoot down rockets(i think) so buffed it even more will suck ass also all tech vehicles will be fked by this
And like u are saying they can shoot it fown will buffing the damage wont really help that much because they will shoot it down anyway
Kilo vehicle will be fked the hunter already cant face a good hvy that mean it will be 2x fked strider as well in maps like outlands were u cant shoot back the hvy because funny trees and hill
Thats -1 one for me thinking not just about ova but all vehicle classes
This buff for one class is nerf for all vehicles at the same time but not a nerf for good foxtrots because u cant hit them anyway (fk u redhart)
Firstly, a buff to rocket damage rewards the heavies that do actually evade the vehicle and get a rocket to hit. Not every single rocket is shot down, however the ones that do in the current meta simply dont reward. Furthermore, you being unable to shoot down rockets is just a personal skill "issue" (I can't think of a better term), and a buff would promote learning how to better evade.
Hunter is more than good enough, it can use its agility to escape direct hits, and avoiding tunnel vision is a skill that pays dividends.
Strider won't be fucked by this, the strider is super fucking good, just because it wont be the all potent destroying machine it was doesn't mean it's underpowered, it's simply more balanced in line with the other vehicles. Heavies / Ballista aren't even as active as 95% of other classes, so just be smart in when you deploy and it's a real non-issue.
(21 Jul 21 at 5:45pm)ozz12231 Wrote: I see what u are pointing at but im tech right now i and deploy couple of mi2s today and got totally fked because unlike combine things i cant shoot down rockets(i think) so buffed it even more will suck ass also all tech vehicles will be fked by this
And like u are saying they can shoot it fown will buffing the damage wont really help that much because they will shoot it down anyway
Kilo vehicle will be fked the hunter already cant face a good hvy that mean it will be 2x fked strider as well in maps like outlands were u cant shoot back the hvy because funny trees and hill
Thats -1 one for me thinking not just about ova but all vehicle classes
This buff for one class is nerf for all vehicles at the same time but not a nerf for good foxtrots because u cant hit them anyway (fk u redhart)
Firstly, a buff to rocket damage rewards the heavies that do actually evade the vehicle and get a rocket to hit. Not every single rocket is shot down, however the ones that do in the current meta simply dont reward. Furthermore, you being unable to shoot down rockets is just a personal skill "issue" (I can't think of a better term), and a buff would promote learning how to better evade.
Hunter is more than good enough, it can use its agility to escape direct hits, and avoiding tunnel vision is a skill that pays dividends.
Strider won't be fucked by this, the strider is super fucking good, just because it wont be the all potent destroying machine it was doesn't mean it's underpowered, it's simply more balanced in line with the other vehicles. Heavies / Ballista aren't even as active as 95% of other classes, so just be smart in when you deploy and it's a real non-issue.
First like i said REBEL AIR CRAFT cant shoot down rockets its not able to do it ask the Dev
Hunter already getting fked by hvys and can shoot it down with 2 hits if direct ( one splash and one direct cand do the job) hit or 3 if splashed
Strider is good not ganna like but u cant fking shoot what u CANT SEE i dont have x-ray vision to see behind tree that mean u die even faster maps with trees is aids for aircrafts and strider like i said u cant see behind trees
Tech's vehicles already getting kicked by ballistas
First point is a lie, it's just that combine heli's have larger spread, it is not impossible.
Hunter is not fucked, it's a perfect jeep counter
Then be careful with positioning?
Techs dont get kicked in, ballistas are rarely on
RPGs are supposed to be individually weaker than vehicles. RPGs have no consequence to using them and require nothing to deploy, AND can respawn on their squadmates. Instead of immediately telling me why i'm wrong and can't possibly be right, think about how powerful that is.
Every single argument regarding vehicles vs RPGs has the exact same 6 valid points (3 per side) and everything else is just opinion on how strong vehicles actually should be and whether or not ONE person with an RPG should be enough to counter them. Legit every argument has those same points, and they rarely become less valid per side, but it's pretty obnoxious to listen to them over and over again. Maybe both sides should just switch places and actually play the other side so you can realize how incredibly annoying your opposition is to play against.
(21 Jul 21 at 6:41pm)BOT Pieswick Wrote: First point is a lie, it's just that combine heli's have larger spread, it is not impossible.
Hunter is not fucked, it's a perfect jeep counter
Then be careful with positioning?
Techs dont get kicked in, ballistas are rarely on
U didnt even read my thing i said rebels helis i didnt even say combine in the first point only the (some can but extremely hard as u can see on the discord server (combine) i asked about it gunship only can do that and still extremely hard)
Second i will gladly give u hunter and i get 3 people with rpgs and see who will win u dont drive vehicles (alteast not after the nerf) i never said its shit i said only against hvys is suffering (its anti vehicle class i get it but more damage is going to be fky fky at this point) lets make it one shoot the hunter what about that
Are u tech tho? Im tech and got kicked today that prove my point
Note : plz read my words carefully before calling me a lier
A: Heavy WO Dougan't / RECON PFC Dougan't / MPF UNION 08 5477
Discord Username:
A: Nuk#5513
Steam ID:
A: STEAM_0:0:418023857
Workshop Link:
A: Not applicable
What is your suggestion?
A: Buff Rocket Launcher's damage towards vehicles / Lower vehicles' health to pre-2.1.17.0 update
How would this benefit the server?
A: Since 2.1.17.0 update, vehicles got a 60% increase on health, which made them 1.6 times as tanky as they used to be. It wasn't much of a deal for air vehicles back then, since their guns were fairly weak, however, now that the air vehicles got their guns buffed (it feels as if the rockets they launch now do up to 400 dmg on splash, and the machine guns now shred through your health like butter), the rocket launcher just feels way too weak and slow and somewhat inconsistent, since locking onto the air vehicle takes 5 seconds, the rockets can be shot down, and even the hornet, being the weakest air vehicle on combine side, requires at least 7 rocket hits to be destroyed.
I'm in support of lowering HP :updoge:
Decreasing vehicles HP would make things worse since almost every gun deals 800+ damage in an entire mag
And like u are saying they can shoot it fown will buffing the damage wont really help that much because they will shoot it down anyway
Kilo vehicle will be fked the hunter already cant face a good hvy that mean it will be 2x fked strider as well in maps like outlands were u cant shoot back the hvy because funny trees and hill
Thats -1 one for me thinking not just about ova but all vehicle classes
This buff for one class is nerf for all vehicles at the same time but not a nerf for good foxtrots because u cant hit them anyway (fk u redhart)
Firstly, a buff to rocket damage rewards the heavies that do actually evade the vehicle and get a rocket to hit. Not every single rocket is shot down, however the ones that do in the current meta simply dont reward. Furthermore, you being unable to shoot down rockets is just a personal skill "issue" (I can't think of a better term), and a buff would promote learning how to better evade.
Hunter is more than good enough, it can use its agility to escape direct hits, and avoiding tunnel vision is a skill that pays dividends.
Strider won't be fucked by this, the strider is super fucking good, just because it wont be the all potent destroying machine it was doesn't mean it's underpowered, it's simply more balanced in line with the other vehicles. Heavies / Ballista aren't even as active as 95% of other classes, so just be smart in when you deploy and it's a real non-issue.
First like i said REBEL AIR CRAFT cant shoot down rockets its not able to do it ask the Dev
Hunter already getting fked by hvys and can shoot it down with 2 hits if direct ( one splash and one direct cand do the job) hit or 3 if splashed
Strider is good not ganna like but u cant fking shoot what u CANT SEE i dont have x-ray vision to see behind tree that mean u die even faster maps with trees is aids for aircrafts and strider like i said u cant see behind trees
Tech's vehicles already getting kicked by ballistas
One buff to 2 class can fk the whole vehicles
Hunter is not fucked, it's a perfect jeep counter
Then be careful with positioning?
Techs dont get kicked in, ballistas are rarely on
Every single argument regarding vehicles vs RPGs has the exact same 6 valid points (3 per side) and everything else is just opinion on how strong vehicles actually should be and whether or not ONE person with an RPG should be enough to counter them. Legit every argument has those same points, and they rarely become less valid per side, but it's pretty obnoxious to listen to them over and over again. Maybe both sides should just switch places and actually play the other side so you can realize how incredibly annoying your opposition is to play against.
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Second i will gladly give u hunter and i get 3 people with rpgs and see who will win u dont drive vehicles (alteast not after the nerf) i never said its shit i said only against hvys is suffering (its anti vehicle class i get it but more damage is going to be fky fky at this point) lets make it one shoot the hunter what about that
Are u tech tho? Im tech and got kicked today that prove my point
Note : plz read my words carefully before calling me a lier